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  1. Do you have the option to try them both? Instrument quality can vary wildly between manufacturers and even from the same factory. You're better off actually trying them. I can say get the Ibanez over the Epiphone because I'm not a fan of the Les Paul shape 😉 but the one that you get *may* weigh too much and have sharp fret ends, at which point it's put you off playing it. What's the budget out of curiosity, and do you have to get an amp and the rest out of that money?
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    Leg Vice Build

    You lucky Guitarchatters get this before those pesky bassists, the finished and fitted vice. Three coats of varnish on the chop and all shipshape and Bristol fashion. Which means what exactly, it's a slave vice? It has a maximum capacity in line with the screw of 250 mm, and that's right on the limit of thread engagement. It's width capacity is technically as long as I can fit in it, and I suspect, but haven't tried it yet, that if the leg met the chop all the way down you'd have an even clamping force nearly to the floor, you could glue up a length of around 900 mm if you wanted to. My vice jaw addition is 130mm deep, to the top of the screw really. I hope you've enjoyed my journey into chaos and insanity, and I've made the mistakes for you if you make your own version.
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    Leg Vice Build

    I fitted a little 5mm riser plate at the bottom of each slot so that the chop is now parallel. Then I started cutting the back edge of the chop off to make it a little less chunky and look a bit nicer. Catastrophe!!!!! I started on the wrong side and cut the fore edge of the vice off. The GC Swear Aunty won't let me type what I said. A little rebate and... a little insert This is the back edge, like it was supposed to be.
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    Leg Vice Build

    Once the chop is dry and realeased from it's clamps hang it to see what happens. Is this going to work? Is it remotely functional? Is the end of the world nigh? Well, it does work, it is functional and going on the report from the climate guys this morning, yes, the end is nigh. A little bit of a problem with the chop. You'll recall, unless your attention span is that terrible, that the scissor mechanism is the same length. This causes the vice chop to hang toe in, i.e. it's not parallel, the end is closer than the top. It should be about 5mm longer on the end furthest from the mounting bolts. I could see four ways to get around this at this time, build up a lump of weld on the end of the bar to push the chop out a bit. Fit bearings that are 5mm larger than the bar, bend the bar or insert 5mm plates into the slot.
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    Leg Vice Build

    Whilst the chop was drying I made a start on the scissor mechanism proper. A length of 20mm square bar cut onto two 500mm lengths, it turns out that was too long, so I had to cut them down a bit more, they're 490mm long now. Drilled an M6 clearance hole in the end of ech of them, you can just see it on the other end in this picture. Here I'm filing the end into a semicircle. I decided, looking at the slot and the physics of the thing that it doesn't need a full semi-circle at the end, it just needs to corner knocking off. The opposite side of the end, if that makes any sense, doesn't run against anything. Time will tell if this is enough rounding playing with it suggests that it is. You then need a hole in the middle. This must be the same orientation as the other, if you drill it crosswise then youn can't mount it! No I didn't do that. It's another M6 clearance hole. Bolt it up so it spins freely but doesn't wobble. I used a nyloc nut on it, though there's hardly any rotational moment on it so a normal nut would probably suffice. It's symmetrical in length, which turns out to be wrong as you'll find out later. Hang the scissor mechanism to try out out and sit back feeling pleased with yourself. It may need a little notch cutting out for the middle bolt heads when it's closed.
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    Leg Vice Build

    I've got a confession to make.. I've been neglecting you dear Guitarchatters, I've nearly finished the vice and Basschat know all about it. Sorry. Here I've finished the bit where the scissor mechanism runs, cut the middle section to leave the hole for the screw and the rebates to either side. I cut the outers of the middle block of 5 and made some cheeks for the top to make it wider. I also drilled each part for 10mm dowels as discussed above somewhere. Mark up each piece with a number... I Because this was always possible, dropped the bits trying to pick them all up at once. Apply glue, clamps and time.
  7. I use 0.60 Dunlop tortex. No idea if that helps though, it's all personal preference.
  8. It's pretty much all been said, my 2p is don't go for one with the three plastic strings. Get a proper one with metal strings. The plastic ones are a nightmare to keep in tune.
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    Leg Vice Build

    Back to the cellar again... You get the first post tonight, them bass players will have to wait. The first two are just me showing off. It's nothing to those who know what they're doing, but a hand planed square face is something for me to boast about 😁 OK. So having learnt from the legs I'm cutting the slot for the scissor mechanism before gluing. To ensure that they don't move once it's time to be glued I'm screwing the strips together and I'll drill the holes out for dowels later. I don't think it'll need dowels, the compression moment is against the long grain and something else will break first. But it's another skill to learn.
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    Leg Vice Build

    I've got to do the same post twice now.... After I finished on here I went to do some more to my *Thing* in the cellar... Starting on the chop. It's going to be 60mm thick, X mm long and the core is 5 lengths of the 18mm block board. I've been putting it off because I'm lazy and it's hand cutting. Nothing arduous really. Square off the edge of the board. Mark and cut a strip a smidge over 60mm wide. Square off and repeat until you have 5 strips of timber. I've remembered this time that the mortice thing for the scissor mechanism needs to be cut, so here are the strips marked up for cutting. I need to remember to add a third one for the middle, it's a slightly different middle to the leg, no runners to fill the gap.
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    Leg Vice Build

    Hope you enjoyed the popcorn
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    Leg Vice Build

    This is a copy n paste direct from BC: 1) It's solid AF. I can't make it rack front to back, side to side is a bit sloppier. 2) It's as near square as dammit lengthwise. Vertically from the bench top not so much unfortunately. 3) The individual sets of two laminations are four square, which I'm very happy with. As full units they're not great, the back leg in particular is very out on the cut dimension. 4) It's a little short as pointed out. I had always planned to make it the same size as the bench top excluding the edging, but why, I don't know. There's no reason to have done that, except, and this is in hindsight rather that being planned, it can have a removable fixed jaw plate which can be swapped if it gets tatty. Saves having to repair the leg proper, but I've only just thought of it. In general, I'm happy with what I've made. Yes, more care could have been taken, more thought should certainly have gone into it but I've learnt a lot and I've enjoyed doing it. The next step is cutting the chop, no idea why it's called that, and making the cross. Cutting the chop will have to be done by hand, I don't have a powered saw and I don't see why I should go to Hagebau and buy another board just becase they can cut it into 60mm strips for me. The sawing and planing practice will be good for me. It'll be laminated the same as the legs, but I'll cut the mortise first this time and dowel the laminates whilst gluing to make sure they don't float on the glue. That's you on GC up to date with what I've been up to. I'll add more as I make more sawdust/firewood... Oh, and to steal a quote from the doyen of BC Build Diaries, @Andyjr1515, this is how I'm doing it. It doesn't necessarily follow that this is a) the right way, b) the only way, or c) it'll ultimately even work. (Though even I can manage to post on two foruii at once and not put dirty guitar builds on BC... 😜)
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    Leg Vice Build

    Varnish dry and the leg assembly properly fitted. Temorary chock under the front foot. The next part is to make the scissor mechanism out of this piece of 20mm square bar my brother-in-law had in his stock behind his workshop. As I said earlier, the Benchcrafted ones are very tasty, but if I was going to spend that sort of money I'd have got a Record vice off eBay at the very beginning.
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    Leg Vice Build

    There's a bit of a jump now, the other part of the back leg has been glued on, the ends trimmed and planed square as best I can. The top plate that fixes it to the bench has been marked up, drilled and fitted. The nut is fitted and the screw tested. The face of the nut isn't square to the bore unfortunately, nothing massive but needed a bit of shaving inside the hole. I need a lathe to true it up, but I haven't got one, nor access to one anymore. It's test fitted to the bench to ensure that the holes for the fixing bolts line up. They do. No, the front leg doesn't reach the ground. I thought about it, but as the floor isn't level and I may want to move the bench in the future I thought that making it stand properly on one patch of floor would be a mistake. A little plinth wil be made for it. On it's back being varnished.
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    Leg Vice Build

    Released from it's clamps and propped up against the bench and wall to get an idea of whether it's dimensionally in the right area. Tedy came down to supervise. Fortunately he didn't try and wee on it. Fitting the back leg is more or less the same as the front. The only way I could think of to get it square was to lie the tape measure on it and then use a square to ensure that the tape was square so the front to back dimension would be the same for each runner. I was very pleased to find that after the gluing process the legs are the correct distance apart and parallel The two clamps doing nothing are there as stops to try and prevent the leg floating on the glue and moving. They did, it just moved lengthwise instead. 🙄
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