Skinnyman

The band are talking about upgrading our current PA (in stages if possible) and starting by replacing the current Yamaha mixer with a digital unit that allows multiple monitor mixes as well as the main output feeds.

I have heard good things about the Behringer X18 and it seems like that plus a few of the personal monitors would do the job, giving everyone the chance of creating their own IEM mix.

There’s also a new Zoom L12 mixer which also records and can support 5 monitor mixes - that would do the job but it means that someone (usually me) has to constantly adjust the monitor mixes to everyone’s satisfaction. 

My preference is for the behringer but I may be outvoted.
 

Are there any others I should be looking at that might get more universal approval?

15 hours ago, EdwardMarlowe said:

Looks like an interesting option - what kind of money is in it? I'm very keen on the Mooer series of preamp pedals and the poweramp pedal myself. The poweramp pedal could be constant, then switching in and out the preamp pedals depending on whether I want an AC30 or a Marshall Stack or a Fender Tweed type sound. 

This sort of thing I am sure will only become more common for live work. A nice 2x12" could be a good addition if you're unsure about what monitors/PA will be available. Something else to carry, but on the other hand the difference in weight between my Vox AD120VT and the matching 2x12 extension cab is phenomenal. 

I got mine from Andertons for £280. I’ve rehearsed with it a few times and will be gigging with it in a week or so’s time. Very impressed with the sound. The Mooers look like they’d do the job too but, obvs, with more real estate on the board. That would allow foot switching between amp models which isn’t possible with the Simplifier. 
In my case, I do a mix of the signals from my pedal board, synth and guitar synth to balance the levels and send one signal to the PA, so I have the Simplifier velcroed to a music stand alongside a little behringer mixer. As a result, it’s an easy job (albeit the switch is a bit small and fiddly) to just flick between the different amp models.

This sounds like a case of the classic “try them all and see which talks to you” but, really, that’s your best option. 
 

Plus, half the fun of getting new gear is the hunt; the research, the YouTube videos, the reviews, checking prices…

Of the models you’ve listed, I’d probably be boring and go for the Fender for no better reason than Classic looks, versatility, they look mean in black and resale value down the line.  But that’s just me - you need to find the guitar that fits you. 
 

Just to make things harder, have you thought about a Kiesel A6?

Good amp choice by the way.

Good luck with the hunt and have fun looking

I’m having a bit of a clear out and first up is my Zoom G5.

I’ve had this from new and it’s only ever been used at home for practice, as a result, it’s in excellent condition.

There’s a ton of FX built in, plus a looper and a “tube boost” which is a handy bit of extra drive and grit for solos. It has XLR output so you can use as a DI box and there are 20-odd amp sims built in so you could use this straight into a DAW for recording or into an FRFR speaker and go ampless.

The unique feature on the zoom is the “Z” pedal which is genius. It goes up and down as you’d expect and has different functions depending on the effect - but it also goes from side to side. This allows it to have dual functions - flick it left and press down and it’s (for example) chorus, flick it right and it’s (for example) reverb. Keep it centred and it does both. Brilliant idea.

Heres a review: 

https://guitargearfinder.com/reviews/multi-effects-pedals/zoom-g5-review/

These seem to go on the ’Bay for about £140 but I’ve priced this to go as I really need the room.

Price is for collection from Cleethorpes or me dropping it off/meeting when I’m on one of my regular trips to the Home Counties - PM me and we can discuss options.

I can also post within the UK but this is a chunky beast so it’s likely to be a bit pricey. Say £15 max (but if it ends up costing less then you only pay the lower amount).

The unit is boxed and comes with the PSU. I’m afraid the manual is long since lost but it can be downloaded from the Zoom website.

I’ll try and get some pictures later but in the meantime, here’s a stock picture so you can see which unit we’re talking about. PM with any questions 

1 hour ago, ezbass said:

Different valve SIMs in addition to the amp SIMs; nice. That Ocean’s 11 looks interesting too. 

The EL88s really thicken the sound up. Lots of combinations to play with - I’m impressed.

It’s taken me a while but I’ve now got the board I want with nothing I don’t want on it. The Ocean’s 11 is lovely, although I don’t really use the shimmer and other more extreme effects. I really like that Soul Food too. It thickens up a clean tone without making it too driven and gainy. I might add a cheap Landlord echo pedal at some time but that’s about it. If I need any more esoteric sounds, I just use the synth 

Does this count as a new Amp? Given that it’s advertised as a “0 watt amplifier” then I’m going to say yes.

This is the DSM &  Humboldt Simplifier Classic which is an amp and cab sim “pedal” (it’s not really a pedal as there’s no on/off button but it’s sized to fit on a pedal board and so…..pedal). 
 

I mainly play through my guitar synth which is plugged into the PA but I also wanted the ability to play the guitar “straight” and have that through the PA rather than lug an amp around with me.

I initially started looking at things like the Headrush and Helix Stomp but I have a pedal board with all the pedals I need and the multi fx-style solutions are overkill (and expensive) for what I need.

Having gone down the YouTube rabbit hole, I came across this little chap. DSM & Humboldt are, apparently, two Chilean companies who have produced this as a joint venture and I have to say that first impressions are very, very good.

The pedal is very well made. It looks and feels like a lot of standard parts were used but they’re good quality and the whole thing seems well put together.

Its also tiny. I have no idea how they’ve got everything inside, especially as this is an all-analogue product. Be aware that there is no PSU supplied with it so you’ll need to buy one separately (or use one of the millions we all accumulate and have lying around the place). It doesn’t run on batteries, only mains power so do t forget that PSU…

I only received it yesterday so I’ve not had too much time with it yet. Switching it on, I’m impressed with the low noise floor and by how solid all the switches and knobs feel to operate. There are three amps simulated; A Fender blackface), Vox AC30 and a Marshall. Cab choices are 1x12, 2x12 and 4x12. You can switch between three different types of valve and you can alter the positioning of the virtual mics.

Alongside gain, volume, presence and resonance, there are bass, mid and treble controls.

The great thing is that each of these makes a noticeable difference to the tone. The amp models sound pretty close to the real thing but the tweaking options let you dial in exactly the sound you’re after. 
 

It took me all of ten seconds to find a beautiful clean tone to work with the drive pedals on my board and I could, if I wanted, just use that and never twiddle again.

I probably will though. 
 

So, first impressions positive - here are some pictures of it on my board (not yet fully positioned or plugged in). I’ll update once I’ve had chance to gig with it.

Another Hercules user here with the clever spring operated clip things.

No marking of necks.

We have “dot’n’dab” plasterboard on all the walls so everything has to be drilled through that and into the brickwork (which is usually breeze block anyway). As a result, fixings have to be about six inches long to be sure of getting a decent purchase.

I have one of those little Bugeras which punches well above its weight. 
 

Those are Gear4Music exclusive cabs, aren’t they? I looked at those a while ago - what do you think of them?

Interesting.

Beyond the fact that Gibsons are shorter scale than Fenders (usually), I had no idea that short scale guitars were a thing. I’ll be intrigued to find out more (another YT rabbit hole for me to disappear down!)

It’s been a fun process so far.

I have a guitar which is hooked up the the GR55 synth so it plays patches through that. I also take the MIDI out from the GR55 and send it to a keyboard synth which I sometimes play via the guitar, via the keys or in unison with the GR55.

As things stand, the drummer has no idea what is making all these noises and it’s hilarious watching his reaction when suddenly a sax starts playing, apparently from nowhere.

The Simplifier should arrive tomorrow so I’ll report back once I’ve had chance to play with it.

18 minutes ago, ubit said:

Banter is when it's going back and forth. I can chat to anyone but as I say on stage where everyone else can hear it becomes harder. You are aware that you might say something that everyone laughs at or even worse if you say something funny that no one laughs at. If someone shouts out a funny comment and you cannot think of a humorous retort until half and hour later kind of thing.

My worry is that, not knowing the audience, I’d inadvertently say something that could be misconstrued or seen as offensive.

I like Dad’s idea of having some rambling monologue prepared just to avoid the “dead air” and occupy time while the amp is being fixed/guitar being restrung/singer sobered up*. 
 

Alternatively, have an MP3 player plugged in and ready to go and announce “it looks like we’ll be a few minutes while these small technical issues are fixed so here’s a little music and I’ll go and get my potter’s wheel**”

Then play some bland elevator music or something obviously inappropriate.

*delete as appropriate

**Obscure reference to the early days of TV when they would show little films, one of which was somebody using a potters wheel to make a bowl, whenever they had technical problems with the scheduled program. Might be a little too obscure for any audience less than 60 years old…

21 minutes ago, ubit said:

To be so obsessed with someone she had never met and had only watched a couple of videos of us playing was creepy.

Fortunately there are very few videos of me out there on the internet and my face isn’t in any of them so you’d have to recognise my buttocks to realise that it’s me….

5 hours ago, ubit said:

Tell me about it. My band mates would not believe me when I told them a girl I had never met had sent me a brand new P bass. I found it hard to swallow myself I mean it was WAY too much and made me feel quite ill. It got worse when her husband emailed me and called me for everything. I didn't even know she was married. It gave me an out right enough.

So this married woman becomes obsessed with you and buys (and ships) you a bass?

I’ve had a couple of stalkers over the years but none of them have bought me a bass. I wonder what I’m doing wrong?

The lead guitarist in our band has gone full FRFR and is using a headrush unit direct into the PA system. It sounds great.

I have a GR55 guitar synth and an actual synth plugged into a small mixer which then goes to the main PA.

Occasionally, I need to play the actual guitar rather than through the synth unit and so I’ve been looking at options. This included the Sansamp units (the GT2 probably) and the Strymon Iridium but the one I’ve settled on is the Humboldt Simplifier Classic. It models three classic amps and three types of cab, has an FX loop and XLR outputs to the PA. A lot cheaper than the Iridium and substantially cheaper than a Helix or Headrush*

I’ll report back when it arrives but the video reviews look very good.
 

* Which I appreciate do a lot more

On 08/08/2021 at 11:56, ubit said:

I had a girl that I got talking to from America. I never ever met her we just chatted online. Trouble is she got a bit over the top and serious to the extent that she asked me what my dream bass would be. Next thing I knew a brand new American Standard Fender Precision arrived. All custom charges were paid. I tried to give her the money for it but she categorically refused. When I met my current partner she wanted me to get rid of anything to do with  my exes. When she found out about this girl, who I still emailed now and again mostly out of guilt, she demanded that I cease all communication. I did but have never told her which bass is the one that she sent as she would want me to sell it. 

Blimey.

Just….. blimey

Things have generally been fine but I did notice a slight tremor of the hands at the last rehearsal - because, for the first time ever, I was playing a synth in front of other people.

It settled down after about four bars.

12 minutes ago, ubit said:

I dabble with the banjo

I have reported this to the relevant authorities.

39 minutes ago, Witch Hazel said:

Ampeg doesn't seem to be the "in thing" for bass at the moment (feels like everyone's moved on to Mesa and MarkBass) but i really like mine. 

The good thing is that they’re incredible value used. 
 

(scuttles off to BC marketplace)

Welcome W-H.

I think guitar through a bass amp used to be relatively common (the Fender Bassman being a case in point).

I do like those Ampeg Portaflex amps - I’m tempted to try one for myself

1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said:

 

Rick has a lot of interesting stuff to say, but he insists on shouting it instead!

 

There's a newsreader on Wales Today who could be his brother...

 

Rick Beato                                   Random Newsreader                   

 

I found some of Beato’s stuff interesting but then he started getting all self-referential and the videos were more about his experiences as a YouTuber, copyright strikes and his dealings with other Tubers and less about the music.

I’ve recently noticed a trend for “reactions” videos where someone is filmed reacting to their (supposed) first hearing of a classic track such as “Close To The Edge” or similar. I’m sure these have been going for ages but they’ve just started appearing in my suggestions.

My initial reaction is “why?”. Why would I want to watch a person I don’t know listen to a piece of music that I do know and why would I care about their reaction?

I’m sure these things bring joy and happiness to many so good luck to them.

I bought this last year as it had the number of inputs I wanted along with USB 3.0 connectivity.

If I’m honest, I wish I’d bought a Focusrite Instead.

Good things;

4 combi XLR inputs on the front panel

USB 3.0 connection

USB or external power

Reasonable sound quality (see below)

Not So Good Things

Input levels are very low, especially on Mics meaning that you have to raise the gain levels to nearly max which brings up the noise floor. I’m now using mine with an external DI to boost signals to line levels before they hit the UR44C.

The firmware upgrade process is hit and miss with the real possibility that you trash the thing if it fails

Similarly, driver updates are also a bit of a lottery.

Connection to my Mac is inconsistent. Mostly works but throws the occasional strop. The unit can work correctly but still not be recognised by the basically useless supplied software.

No power switch. I use an external PSU and have to switch the unit off at the wall. Only a minor point but it’s an inconvenience and would be sorted by an On-Off button.

All in all, this has been a real disappointment. I dare say some of the issues are more to do with the latest version of the Mac OS but I cannot forgive the poor quality of the Mic inputs. I’ve managed to get some reasonable recordings but every time I power up the computer I’m wondering if the Interface is working today or whether I’ll have to fix that before I can start to do any work.
 

I just opened guitarchat.co.uk on my mobile and the menu option has disappeared from the home page so one can’t open it to Sign In.

Fortuunately, the Sign In button under the picture of the caravan is still present and works so I could sign in that way.

(Also, the menu is present on the BC Home Screen but when I select Sign In, it hangs. Maybe related? Maybe just me. You could have just messaged me and told me to stay away….)

28 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I jammed with a guy who had one. He used it for transposing.

It was a tricky session - he was one of those people who transposes everything  to suit his voice. Do some people have a range of 1 1/2 octaves?

Only if I really stretch

I’ve ordered a set of elixirs and we’ll see how they go.

50 minutes ago, Dad3353 said:

Elixir

Which ones? There seem to be quite a few different ones…