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On 21/08/2018 at 19:51, Noisyjon said:

I have heard awful sounds with modellers plugged into guitar amps/setups so not interested in that scenario.

That said, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that method it's just not my cup of tea.

This is where the high quality 2 way powered speaker has it sussed in terms of replicating all the various colourations of sound.

But man, just looked and £1,250 is a lot of dosh  

That's what I was getting at. Most things sounds awful through guitar cabs... apart from guitar amps.

1 hour ago, Skybone said:

Here's a question for you...

Do you have a guitar amp? What sort of rig are you using?

I'm assuming that the intention of the FRFR setup is to take to band rehearsals & gigs etc. so that you can monitor your guitar sound. If you're at home, just plug in some headphones, or buy a phono to jack lead and plug it into your Hi Fi.

Instead of buying a dedicated FRFR rig, why not simply plug the output from your amp modeler into the Effects Return on your amp?

By doing this, you're bypassing the amp's pre-amp, and going straight into the power amp. Your modeler is your pre-amp and volume controller, your sound is coming from guitar speakers. Theoretically, the power amp shouldn't colour the sound, as that's done in the pre-amp.

Currently using this method with my HD500X into a bass amp (for bass).

Nothing colours the tone more than the speakers that are outputting the sound. The theory behind a FRFR setup is that there is a very clean (typically) transistor amp that remains clean and doesn't distort or sag. The modeller is outputting the capture sound of a guitar rig, complete with the coloured output of the speakers of the guitar cab. If you are then putting coloured speakers on the end of your modelled chain, you aren't hearing the model as it's intended.

What you are saying is true - you can do this... but it won't be as authentic as a true FRFR setup.

2 hours ago, charic said:

The RCF 735/745 are reviewing well at the moment!

They are - but for guitarists, they are kinda overkill because guitars don't need to the low end response and headroom of those cabs. The 712A and 732A is a good match for guitars - you can probably argue that you don't even need the 3" horn too.