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So I needed to change the strings on my Brook acoustic - a small jumbo with a lovely, lively sound but well balanced. Anywa, I decided to try some coated strings to see how they worked and for a bit of extra in-case longevity. Normally I’ve used phosphor bronze strings on all my guitars before this but I bought some 80/20 bronze Elixirs and I hate them. The sound is horribly mid ranged and honky both acoustically and through the LR Baggs Dual Source pickup system. As I just DI straight in pulling back the mid on my EQ isn’t an option and the pickup system just has Vol and Piezo/Mic blend onboard.
So anyone had experience with more mellow, even sounding coated strings? Should I try the Elixir Phosphor Bronze strings? Or is there another brand/type you might recommend for a nice, even, mellow sound. Ta.
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Watched Gordon Giltrap playing a lovely fanned fret 12 string guitar that Fylde made for him. Sounded great. I think that the fanning helps with chording ergonomics as much a string tension stuff (which is more important on bass, I guess).
From his website...
“On the standard 6 or 12 string guitar, the top and bottom strings are almost at the limits of tensions for their appropriate notes. By “fanning” the frets to meet the “swing” of the left hand up and down the neck, the resulting changes in tension and gauges of the strings helps to produce clearer notes and more accurate intonation, particularly useful when there are 12 strings involved!”
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7 hours ago, leftybassman392 said:
Well yes, but a lot of other people had a big say on the development of the guitar as we know it today over many hundreds of years is my point. Why the big deal with Martin? And why the big deal with cross-bracing? Why start with him? I mean, guitars had been doing very well thank you without it for an awfully long time.
Not a problem; just seems a bit random is all.
Oh, and I'm specifically not trying to be a killjoy - I thought I'd already said that actually, but hey ho!
Well let’s see... No x brace, no steel string (jazz boxes excepted), no steel string pre war maybe no popular take up of guitar (or even development of jazz boxes) (Victorian fashion for parlour guitars notwithstanding, having died out by then), maybe Les Paul/Adolf Rickenbacker/Travis Perkins (take your pick) invents first electric banjo or ukulele, or harmonica or accordion, maybe Jimi Hendrix revolutionises folk fiddle playing... But that’s not even the point. FFS it was just meant to be a bit of light hearted fun and discussion starter about the nature of the guitar and who made a difference at some point, not a bloody PhD thesis.
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18 hours ago, leftybassman392 said:
Not to be picky, but guitars go back waaaaay further than C.F. Martin.
Instruments with a recognisably guitar-like shape go back hundreds of years, and by tracing the family trees of guitars, lutes, harps and other chordophones back to the source it's possible to go back at least as far as an ancient Greek instrument called a Kithara (which is actually a harp, but you get the general idea). The European Vihuela and it's offspring the Baroque guitar, the Indian Sitar, Persian Setar, Arabic Oud plus a whole lot more are all descendants of this instrument in one way or another. Accounts of the lineage vary, but guitars were certainly in common use in the Medieval period: Example
Not wishing to be overly critical, but putting C.F. Martin at the birth of the guitar because he invented cross-bracing is, I'm afraid, a bit arbitrary. It's like putting Dunlop at the birth of the wheel because he made the first commercially viable pneumatic tyre.
Sorry. Not trying to be a killjoy, but facts is facts.
Never said he invented guitar, said he invented/popularised x-bracing - and hence was hugely influential in the development of the modern guitar. Sorry to be a killjoy to your killjoyness.
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You could do a lot worse than this one up on the For Sale forum here.
Not afilliated to the sale or seller, just thought, “Oooh, that’s nice!”
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GLWTS. Love Gordon Smiths. Got a couple so sadly not in the market. That’s a beaut with that top and finish!
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PS for extra diagnostic info... it’s only embedded links. Uploading images direct works fine. Initially I was linking to FB photos so initially checked FB permissions were all public. Then tried more straightforward online JPGs like the Anderton’s one above. Same problem. Hope that gives some extra help in tracking it down.
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On 19/08/2018 at 16:32, charic said:
I believe this is around how the site handles https. Theres a setting somewhere but i cant get on at the moment.
Ill see what i can do
Oooh, that brings back memories! Lol! Presumably you’re using the same architecture to BC in which case confident you’ll fix it with a virtual switch flick!
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So many... in sort of no particular order...
- Gordon Giltrap - right at the top of my list
- Gary Moore
- Steve Howe
- Phil Keaggy
- Wes Montgomery
- Alex Lifeson
- Ian Bairnson - Pilot, Kate Bush and The Alan Parsons Project
- Brian Robertson/Scott Gorham - The Classic Thin Lizzy line up!
- Stevie Ray Vaughan
- Larry Carlton
...that’ll do for now.
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If you’re looking second hand don’t discount a used Gordon Smith. Amazing hand built British guitars for seriously low outlay!
PS see my avatar above...
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Both Karl and Nick in the UK prog metal band Threshold used to use a couple of Pacificas (with some upgrades) as spare guitars and alternative tuning guitars on tour alongside their Jacksons, Charvels, Ibanezes etc. Sounded pretty good with a good set up and some better quality pickups. Not so shabby. I had a Pacifica Tele as my first ever electric. It was not a bad little guitar.
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Saw this discussion elsewhere but thought it was interesting. There are four heads of the US founding fathers carved on Mount Rushmore. If we had a guitar history version, who would be there? In terms of developing the guitar my choices might be...
- C.F. Martin - for developing and/or popularising X-bracing
- George Beauchamp - for developing the first commercial electrified guitar-type instrument and patenting the single cone resonator
- Doc Kauffman - for the Vibrola on the Rickenbacker Electro-Spanish Ken Roberts guitar, and
- Leo Fender - of course for developing the first production line electrics and everything after...
But what about developing guitar playing? Maybe...
- Charlie Christian (though my personal fave jazz player was Wes Montgomery)
- Davy Graham (or another of the 60s folkie boom players?)
- Jimi Hendrix
- Eddie Van Halen (perhaps looking a bit sheepish given the level of bad taste hair metal playing he unleashed throughout the 80s and beyond...)
Thats much trickier... over to you guys...
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My two porntastic acoustics. A Brook Tamar from 1999 and a Fylde Gordon Giltrap from about 2003.
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7 hours ago, backwater said:
My two acoustics, both hand made by Moon Guitars in Glasgow. An early Model 002 and a 12-string 003 that was made for Donnie Munro of Runrig.
Andy
Love those Moons! He makes such gorgeous guitars!
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Hey there. Really a bassist but over the years have amassed a collection of lovely guitars. Just count myself as a dabbler. I’ve a Fylde Gordon Giltrap acoustic and a Gordon Smith G90 prototype - both of which I won in competitions and which were presented to me respectively by Gordon and Steve Howe. I know, I know... Lucky bar-steward!
Ive got another Gordon Smith - a semi solid, a Brook Tamar acoustic guitar, a Brueko ukulele and a Fylde Octavius Bouzouki. And my Mrs has a lovely Norman folk style acoustic.
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It may just be a ratty old Eko from a jumble sale or a cosseted James Olsen original but this is the place to show off your guitar collection...
I've got a couple of electrics, a couple of acoustics and some other bits and bobs... here they are. Now time to share yours!
Fylde Gordon Giltrap signature
Brook Tamar 010
(Gordon seems to think it’s OK!)
Gordon Smith G90 prototype
Gordon Smith Gypsy SS
Brueko ukulele
Fylde Octavius bouzouki
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Top three guitarists?
in General Discussion
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My three faves are all quite different in style…
1) Gordon Giltrap - whether in his 70s prog phase or later lone troubadour phase… I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen Gordon live!
2) Steve Howe - Yes/GTR/Asia
3) Gary Moore - Thin Lizzy: another player I’ve seen live innumerable times.
Honourable mentions…